Zandranna:: Great Spirit we ask for love guidance and protection in all we do here tonight
Zandranna:: I ask for the help of my guides and the help of the loved ones of the people here tonight to draw close to us
Zandranna:: And may all messages be given and received clearly with love and honesty
Zandranna:: amen
fran 20:: amen
riffy31:: amen
sonicf2005:: amen
LadyPhoenix49:: Amen
Zandranna:: ok can i start straight away with sue
Zandranna:: did you by any chance ever call your boy little man
LadyPhoenix49:: thats what I call my grandsons.......and yes Nick on occasions
Zandranna:: i was given the words little man and instantly thought of you
LadyPhoenix49:: k
Zandranna:: ok good, im being told that you have been feeliing sad lately
Zandranna:: in fact sometimes quite tearful
LadyPhoenix49:: is that time of year
Zandranna:: you are exhausted both mentally and physically i am told
Zandranna:: i am sitting here just wanting to burst into tears
LadyPhoenix49:: things are a bit hectic
Zandranna:: who ever is with me is feeling it with you
LadyPhoenix49:: k
Zandranna:: and just wants to wrap you in their arms and carry you or your burdens
Zandranna:: i see a fairly tall young man and he is showing how smart he is
Zandranna:: smart as in his mode of dress
Zandranna:: have you had a youngish girl around you lately
LadyPhoenix49:: from spirit
Zandranna:: i hear childrens laughter
Zandranna:: no i think on earth
LadyPhoenix49:: only Kirsty
Zandranna:: its as if you have maybe had a child with you
LadyPhoenix49:: oh ok
Zandranna:: yes is a girl child true
Zandranna:: i am getting the feeling that she is supporting you in some way, hold on
Zandranna:: that her presence around you give you the strength to go on if you know what i mean, does that make sence
Zandranna:: sense
LadyPhoenix49:: I am not sure....
Zandranna:: can you also take a philip
LadyPhoenix49:: I dont know any girls
LadyPhoenix49:: there is Philip in family much removed
LadyPhoenix49:: not someone I see
Zandranna:: this young man with me whoever he is is just giving me the feeling that he is with you so much at this time.
LadyPhoenix49:: k ty
Zandranna:: im not getting any more im afraid,
LadyPhoenix49:: thanks Sand..
Zandranna:: although he is still showing me this youngish girl child
Zandranna:: i dont know why
LadyPhoenix49:: only girl child i know is Jim's daughter
Zandranna:: still trying for more
Zandranna:: i know its something to do with supporting
Zandranna:: either her suporting you or you supporting her
LadyPhoenix49:: ok
Zandranna:: sorry sue i just cant give any more
LadyPhoenix49:: thats ok....and thank you
Zandranna:: did anyone have a wolf looking type dog
Zandranna:: a shaggy type of dog
Zandranna:: and would have taken them for walks mainly in a woods
fran 20:: not me
Zandranna:: i think the woods would have been close to where whoever lived
riffy31:: ive had lots but i dont think any would be what youd call wolf like
sonicf2005:: we had a dog a cross between a cockerspaniel and a golden retrevier not wolf like though but had a thick black coat
Zandranna:: i think who ever would have had more than one dog at the same time
sonicf2005:: we did
Zandranna:: or taken the dog out with other dogs
sonicf2005:: and the woods were on our backyard
Zandranna:: ok thanks sonia
Zandranna:: can you place a lady that would mostly always have worn and apron
Zandranna:: apron may represent someone always busy in the house
sonicf2005:: not sure about that....my mum did occassionally, oh i see my mum was
sonicf2005:: always very busy
Zandranna:: i feel this lady would have had mostly the looking after of these dogs
sonicf2005:: yes she did take over when my dads legs got back
sonicf2005:: bad opps
Zandranna:: im getting a sort of name like, Iasha
Zandranna:: iasha
Zandranna:: or something similar
sonicf2005:: we had another dog called lester
sonicf2005:: at the same time as the other
Zandranna:: these dogs are various sizes im being shown
sonicf2005:: yes....
Zandranna:: one was so energetic especially
sonicf2005:: yes..one was my ex's and she was very energetic lol
Zandranna:: i feel a grandmothers presence i think
Zandranna:: maybe mums mum, is she on the other side
sonicf2005:: oh....yes they are
Zandranna:: i certainly feel this lady is close to your mother
sonicf2005:: how nice ty
Zandranna:: i also feel that she felt to feels that you mum actully worked too hard, hardly ever sitting down
sonicf2005:: i never met my mums mum she died early in life
Zandranna:: so many jobs that needed doing
sonicf2005:: wow thats so correct
sonicf2005:: yes
Zandranna:: its as if she also does what we would call the mans jobs lol
sonicf2005:: yes washing the car etc lol
Zandranna:: ok good, im also being shown mum with a screw driver in her hands as if she also got stuck into some small repairs
Zandranna:: grandma was old fashioned thought womens jobs were for women and mens for mens
sonicf2005:: yes she had a go....she loved to use blue tack hehehe everywhere
sonicf2005:: oh interesting
Zandranna:: she feels mum doesn't get much help???
sonicf2005:: yes she has head bottle washer , hehehe
Zandranna:: does someone have an open fire, that needs to be actually lit
sonicf2005:: spoilt us all rotten
Zandranna:: gran is showing me an open fire you see for some reason
sonicf2005:: no sorry, unless it was the homes and lives of my grandparents
Zandranna:: gran and grandad pass close together??
sonicf2005:: on my mums side no, but my dads side yes
Zandranna:: because it feels almost as if they have never been seperated
sonicf2005:: aww..
Zandranna:: they have dogs as well???
Zandranna:: because who ever is with me was very fond of lots of dogs
sonicf2005:: my mum grew up with a dog, not sure about my dad side
Zandranna:: they are showing me lots of dogs
Zandranna:: areound them now you see
sonicf2005:: oh??...aww...probably our dogs and my mums childhood dog
Zandranna:: ok this may sound strange but i am being given the impression that they are warm now, as if they were hardly ever warm when on earth
Zandranna:: being warm now seems important
Zandranna:: perhaps thats why i was shown a fire
sonicf2005:: oh well they did used to live in a huge house, oh thats would probably make sense yes
Zandranna:: ah ok
sonicf2005:: thanks
Zandranna:: would this person also have had or been fond of cats. im being shown cats
Zandranna:: especially an all black one
sonicf2005:: my mum wasn't fond of them but not sure whether her folks were fond of them, my mum was supoersterious of black cats
Zandranna:: oh maybe thats why im being shown it then.
sonicf2005:: saying good luck to see one pass by
Zandranna:: this lady is making me feel very tired. did she get very tired towards the end
sonicf2005:: yes
sonicf2005:: yes she wasted away bless her
Zandranna:: ah ok, its as if she wanted to sleep a lot as well
sonicf2005:: yes..thats correct....
Zandranna:: i dont feel that she lived to a very very old age. went before her time???
Zandranna:: feels she still felt she could have had much to do
sonicf2005:: yes she was 64 when she passed....yes...that true
Zandranna:: she felt quite sad about that at the time so she must have known she was going to pass
Zandranna:: she is saying something now about a wicker basket??
sonicf2005:: im all goose pimply, yes she knew something wasn't right
Zandranna:: the one she kept her veg in???
Zandranna:: what happened to the basket
Zandranna:: something happened to it
sonicf2005:: OMG the ladies at her work bought her a huge basket with dried flowers in
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: who had it after, she is saying something happened to it
sonicf2005:: I now have it my dad was upset to see flowers there while she was dying, and he gave them to me when she passed
Zandranna:: has someone still got the basket
Zandranna:: ah ok,
sonicf2005:: yes..i do and have arranged coloured lights inside it
Zandranna:: why would she meantion veg to do with the basket i wonder
Zandranna:: perhaps she means would be good for veg lol
Zandranna:: i dont know, lol
sonicf2005:: lol im not sure lol....she had a plastic basket.....for veg and my dad since passing left vegs to rot not a pleasant site i might add lol
Zandranna:: has someone chaffed their skin
Zandranna:: or has a sore
Zandranna:: she is saying somehting about chaffed skin
Zandranna:: can you take a clara
sonicf2005:: oh my....I do get chaffing with the weight I have on....
Zandranna:: ah right ok
Zandranna:: and a molly
sonicf2005:: mm thinking of clara, rings a bell , my aunty was called marleen and shes passed was my dads brothers wife
Zandranna:: ok this is difficult to explain but i am getting the feeling that towards the end she may have felt distant from you
sonicf2005:: they knocked about together
sonicf2005:: yes....she used to tell me to shut up and go home, and really used to hurt me, i think i was too manic with her
Zandranna:: ah ok thats it because she wishes she had been closer
Zandranna:: she regrets that
sonicf2005:: thanks sandy that means the world to me really, and is something i wanted a resolve woth
Zandranna:: feels quite sad about it
sonicf2005:: aww......i really yearned for her affection
Zandranna:: i feel she needed to resolve that as well
Zandranna:: do you still feel you have been pushing her away because of it. because she feels you have
Zandranna:: she wants to come closer
sonicf2005:: im quite emotional now thankyou so much....and thank her too, yes I do feel past hurts yes maybe
Zandranna:: needs to be let in
sonicf2005:: i understand that thankyou
Zandranna:: yes is feeling quite tearful as well. has brought tears to my eyes. and i have just now got a feeling of peace
Zandranna:: and you have made her happy for forgiving
Zandranna:: was important to her
sonicf2005:: i think of her and all the hurt and lack of attention did affect me, yes I feel like a weight has been lifted
sonicf2005:: oh thanks my legs are tingling now
Zandranna:: she can go now she says, lol
Zandranna:: she is very happy
Zandranna:: just felt her love for you
Zandranna:: blowing kisses she is
sonicf2005:: :o) me too how beautiful aww
fran 20:: thats good
sonicf2005:: i blw them back to her
Zandranna:: she is fading now
Zandranna:: love to you
sonicf2005:: Sandy thankyou so much....fantastic and thanks mum for calling here,
Zandranna:: gosh that took a while to get a decent link, but was strong when i finally did
Zandranna:: chat for a bit while I get a drink
fran 20:: well done
Zandranna:: thanks fran
fran 20:: I need a drink to lol
sonicf2005:: yes you was superb......and know it was genuine coz Ive never shared this with with anyone here before
riffy31:: me too but that was truly lovely sand well done
sonicf2005:: Great stuff sandy well done and snding you big HUGS
Zandranna:: thank you sonia
sonicf2005:: and big big thanks....has helped me alot
sonicf2005:: aww(((HUGS)))
Zandranna:: im pleased
sonicf2005:: your shining sand
Zandranna:: ok have just been given, ida and may
Zandranna:: would have been from a large family
fran 20:: might link with me Sand
Zandranna:: seems to be loads of people that would have gathered together
fran 20:: k
Zandranna:: all family
Zandranna:: i think
fran 20:: k
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Zandranna:: yes deffinately remembering a large family gathering
Zandranna:: although i think there were many of these
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: piano, singing, mother brown, knees up. lol
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Zandranna:: oh my whoever is showing me a real big party type thing
fran 20:: this may link to Andy more than me
Zandranna:: very loud and much laughter
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: some of them really enjoyed the drinking part of these parties. showing me a barrel of beer
Zandranna:: lol
fran 20:: sounds about right
Zandranna:: women knees up and men with beer glasses in their hands not far from the barrel
fran 20:: they used to have lots of boozy parties
Zandranna:: but told the parties never went on very late
Zandranna:: reckons they always packed up before closing time, lol
fran 20:: yea right
Zandranna:: rofl
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: i cant get a fix yet on who is with me, wont let me get passed the party lol
Zandranna:: hold on
Zandranna:: ok i am being told that somewhere in the family there is or was one woman that was an alcoholic
Zandranna:: if fact i am feeling that whoever this person is with me would have prefered this other woman not to have been at the gatherings
fran 20:: yes I thnk one of his Aunts
Zandranna:: does that make sense
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: i feel she would have got stroppy when she drank
fran 20:: so I have heard
Zandranna:: caused problems for those around her
fran 20:: I think so
Zandranna:: to tell the truth i think who ever is with me washed her hands of this woman in the end and avoided her. i think im with a woman
fran 20:: k
Zandranna:: cant tell much she isnt showing herself properly yet.
fran 20:: ok
Zandranna:: but i feel may have been a sister to this other woman
Zandranna:: same age group i feel
fran 20:: well they didnt see much of each other in later life
Zandranna:: if fact the lady with me feels that she felt different to most of the family, a bit more lady like
Zandranna:: because she is showing me now herself as if she was on the outskirts of the gatherings. as if slightly aloof from it all
riffy31:: sorry to be rude but i need to go ive sat too long and back hurts a bit love to all will catch up later xxx
fran 20:: any idea who the lady id thats talking to u
Zandranna:: ok riffy night night
fran 20:: night sonia
Zandranna:: no fran, but will try hold on
sonicf2005:: night night sue xoxox
riffy31:: xx
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sonicf2005:: xoxox
fran 20:: or Riffy even lol
sonicf2005:: LOL just seen that lol
Zandranna:: i feel a generation above us fran, and siter to the lady that drank
Zandranna:: sister
Zandranna:: im still getting ida and may
fran 20:: May was Andys Mum and they were all drinkers
Zandranna:: ok may sound silly but just got cream and caramel???
fran 20:: Ida was an Aunt to his mum
fran 20:: Well I love creme Caramel lol
Zandranna:: oh right lol
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: would someone getting beat up mean anything to you
Zandranna:: badly beaten
Zandranna:: or knocked about
fran 20:: yes
fran 20:: could do
Zandranna:: she is showing me a cart of some sort.
Zandranna:: as if there was something to do with a cart having an accident of sorts
fran 20:: im having to read this out to Andy it's not mine
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: or could be the back of an open lorry type thing she is showing me
Zandranna:: but it seems to be in a ditch
fran 20:: nope
Zandranna:: ok
fran 20:: he cant recall that
Zandranna:: she is deffinately showing me some thing leaning over slightly in a ditch.
Zandranna:: i first thought a cart and horse. but its deffinately a vehicle that would be carrying some sort of goods
fran 20:: he cant remember that and it's not for me either Sand
Zandranna:: and this has something to do with fighting.
Zandranna:: as if a fight kicked off because of this
fran 20:: no lost us there lol
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: hold on
Zandranna:: its as if whoever got beat up owned this vehicle or something
Zandranna:: she is linking the two you see
Zandranna:: but i dont know hwo
Zandranna:: how
fran 20:: nope we cant take that hun
Zandranna:: ok no worries
Zandranna:: has someone ear trouble, my ears feel uncomfortagle
fran 20:: but the Parties and names and large families are right
sonicf2005:: omg no idding my partner has had terrible ear trouble
fran 20:: mine have been playing up
sonicf2005:: hes had olive oil in his ear today
sonicf2005:: he went temporoary deaf lol
Zandranna:: oh thought i had left you for a min fran but perhaps im still with you
fran 20:: Ican hear lol
sonicf2005:: the wax was yukky hehehe how conicidental
sonicf2005:: hehehe
Zandranna:: this problem seems to be felt going into the throat area as well
fran 20:: tell him to have it back I dont want it
fran 20:: thats me then Sand
sonicf2005:: LOL will do hehe
Zandranna:: ok fran
Zandranna:: also maybe difficulty in swallowing sometimes as well
fran 20:: right ear right side of throat
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: are you also getting tireder quicker just lately as well
Zandranna:: run down sort of
fran 20:: no more than usual lol
Zandranna:: well getting the feeling you need more rest for some reason
fran 20:: been very busy so have been tired
Zandranna:: feet ache sometimes as well??
Zandranna:: as if need to get off the feet, put them up i seem to be being told
fran 20:: funny Sand Thats Andy as well as me
Zandranna:: oh right
fran 20:: He started the ear and throat thing and his feet give him trouble
Zandranna:: ah ok
fran 20:: mine seem ok
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: so prob still with his family then, lol
fran 20:: think so
Zandranna:: being told that you like a tipple??
fran 20:: not me sorrt
fran 20:: y
Zandranna:: andy then lol
fran 20:: oh yea
sonicf2005:: lol
fran 20:: well he is a scot
Zandranna:: i know you have done your sitting room but have you done something to the conservertory or does conservertory need doing or something
fran 20:: it'a all done looks nice
Zandranna:: changed it around made it look differnt???
Zandranna:: ah
fran 20:: yes to both
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: has it made it look bigger, more room??
Zandranna:: more room to move around now
fran 20:: it's lighter so spose so
fran 20:: no more room lol
Zandranna:: gosh this person is nosy. lol
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: in the kitchen now. that still needs doing??
fran 20:: well all his lot are
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: rofl
fran 20:: yes I T DOES
fran 20:: but not yet
Zandranna:: ah thought so lol. because i got "next the kitchen" lol
sonicf2005:: cool
fran 20:: maybe lol
fran 20:: tell them to come and help
sonicf2005:: lol sorry got giggles
Zandranna:: i think this lady now is just being nosy, lol. just for fun. has nothing else to give
fran 20:: is ok Sonia lol
fran 20:: thanks Sand
sonicf2005:: lol yes just having fits of laughter hehehe, you ake me laugh
Zandranna:: probably was jsut giving a little extra for proof
sonicf2005:: that was great sany, well done wow
Zandranna:: thanks sonia
fran 20:: was prolly just nosy
Zandranna:: yep i agree lol
sonicf2005:: lol
fran 20:: if it was May lol
Zandranna:: ah
sonicf2005:: great messges though
fran 20:: very well done lol
Zandranna:: great spirit we thank you for helping us to link the two worlds together and ask that you keep us all safe until the next time
Zandranna:: amen
fran 20:: amen
sonicf2005:: Amen
Zandranna:: I ask for the help of my guides and the help of the loved ones of the people here tonight to draw close to us
Zandranna:: And may all messages be given and received clearly with love and honesty
Zandranna:: amen
fran 20:: amen
riffy31:: amen
sonicf2005:: amen
LadyPhoenix49:: Amen
Zandranna:: ok can i start straight away with sue
Zandranna:: did you by any chance ever call your boy little man
LadyPhoenix49:: thats what I call my grandsons.......and yes Nick on occasions
Zandranna:: i was given the words little man and instantly thought of you
LadyPhoenix49:: k
Zandranna:: ok good, im being told that you have been feeliing sad lately
Zandranna:: in fact sometimes quite tearful
LadyPhoenix49:: is that time of year
Zandranna:: you are exhausted both mentally and physically i am told
Zandranna:: i am sitting here just wanting to burst into tears
LadyPhoenix49:: things are a bit hectic
Zandranna:: who ever is with me is feeling it with you
LadyPhoenix49:: k
Zandranna:: and just wants to wrap you in their arms and carry you or your burdens
Zandranna:: i see a fairly tall young man and he is showing how smart he is
Zandranna:: smart as in his mode of dress
Zandranna:: have you had a youngish girl around you lately
LadyPhoenix49:: from spirit
Zandranna:: i hear childrens laughter
Zandranna:: no i think on earth
LadyPhoenix49:: only Kirsty
Zandranna:: its as if you have maybe had a child with you
LadyPhoenix49:: oh ok
Zandranna:: yes is a girl child true
Zandranna:: i am getting the feeling that she is supporting you in some way, hold on
Zandranna:: that her presence around you give you the strength to go on if you know what i mean, does that make sence
Zandranna:: sense
LadyPhoenix49:: I am not sure....
Zandranna:: can you also take a philip
LadyPhoenix49:: I dont know any girls
LadyPhoenix49:: there is Philip in family much removed
LadyPhoenix49:: not someone I see
Zandranna:: this young man with me whoever he is is just giving me the feeling that he is with you so much at this time.
LadyPhoenix49:: k ty
Zandranna:: im not getting any more im afraid,
LadyPhoenix49:: thanks Sand..
Zandranna:: although he is still showing me this youngish girl child
Zandranna:: i dont know why
LadyPhoenix49:: only girl child i know is Jim's daughter
Zandranna:: still trying for more
Zandranna:: i know its something to do with supporting
Zandranna:: either her suporting you or you supporting her
LadyPhoenix49:: ok
Zandranna:: sorry sue i just cant give any more
LadyPhoenix49:: thats ok....and thank you
Zandranna:: did anyone have a wolf looking type dog
Zandranna:: a shaggy type of dog
Zandranna:: and would have taken them for walks mainly in a woods
fran 20:: not me
Zandranna:: i think the woods would have been close to where whoever lived
riffy31:: ive had lots but i dont think any would be what youd call wolf like
sonicf2005:: we had a dog a cross between a cockerspaniel and a golden retrevier not wolf like though but had a thick black coat
Zandranna:: i think who ever would have had more than one dog at the same time
sonicf2005:: we did
Zandranna:: or taken the dog out with other dogs
sonicf2005:: and the woods were on our backyard
Zandranna:: ok thanks sonia
Zandranna:: can you place a lady that would mostly always have worn and apron
Zandranna:: apron may represent someone always busy in the house
sonicf2005:: not sure about that....my mum did occassionally, oh i see my mum was
sonicf2005:: always very busy
Zandranna:: i feel this lady would have had mostly the looking after of these dogs
sonicf2005:: yes she did take over when my dads legs got back
sonicf2005:: bad opps
Zandranna:: im getting a sort of name like, Iasha
Zandranna:: iasha
Zandranna:: or something similar
sonicf2005:: we had another dog called lester
sonicf2005:: at the same time as the other
Zandranna:: these dogs are various sizes im being shown
sonicf2005:: yes....
Zandranna:: one was so energetic especially
sonicf2005:: yes..one was my ex's and she was very energetic lol
Zandranna:: i feel a grandmothers presence i think
Zandranna:: maybe mums mum, is she on the other side
sonicf2005:: oh....yes they are
Zandranna:: i certainly feel this lady is close to your mother
sonicf2005:: how nice ty
Zandranna:: i also feel that she felt to feels that you mum actully worked too hard, hardly ever sitting down
sonicf2005:: i never met my mums mum she died early in life
Zandranna:: so many jobs that needed doing
sonicf2005:: wow thats so correct
sonicf2005:: yes
Zandranna:: its as if she also does what we would call the mans jobs lol
sonicf2005:: yes washing the car etc lol
Zandranna:: ok good, im also being shown mum with a screw driver in her hands as if she also got stuck into some small repairs
Zandranna:: grandma was old fashioned thought womens jobs were for women and mens for mens
sonicf2005:: yes she had a go....she loved to use blue tack hehehe everywhere
sonicf2005:: oh interesting
Zandranna:: she feels mum doesn't get much help???
sonicf2005:: yes she has head bottle washer , hehehe
Zandranna:: does someone have an open fire, that needs to be actually lit
sonicf2005:: spoilt us all rotten
Zandranna:: gran is showing me an open fire you see for some reason
sonicf2005:: no sorry, unless it was the homes and lives of my grandparents
Zandranna:: gran and grandad pass close together??
sonicf2005:: on my mums side no, but my dads side yes
Zandranna:: because it feels almost as if they have never been seperated
sonicf2005:: aww..
Zandranna:: they have dogs as well???
Zandranna:: because who ever is with me was very fond of lots of dogs
sonicf2005:: my mum grew up with a dog, not sure about my dad side
Zandranna:: they are showing me lots of dogs
Zandranna:: areound them now you see
sonicf2005:: oh??...aww...probably our dogs and my mums childhood dog
Zandranna:: ok this may sound strange but i am being given the impression that they are warm now, as if they were hardly ever warm when on earth
Zandranna:: being warm now seems important
Zandranna:: perhaps thats why i was shown a fire
sonicf2005:: oh well they did used to live in a huge house, oh thats would probably make sense yes
Zandranna:: ah ok
sonicf2005:: thanks
Zandranna:: would this person also have had or been fond of cats. im being shown cats
Zandranna:: especially an all black one
sonicf2005:: my mum wasn't fond of them but not sure whether her folks were fond of them, my mum was supoersterious of black cats
Zandranna:: oh maybe thats why im being shown it then.
sonicf2005:: saying good luck to see one pass by
Zandranna:: this lady is making me feel very tired. did she get very tired towards the end
sonicf2005:: yes
sonicf2005:: yes she wasted away bless her
Zandranna:: ah ok, its as if she wanted to sleep a lot as well
sonicf2005:: yes..thats correct....
Zandranna:: i dont feel that she lived to a very very old age. went before her time???
Zandranna:: feels she still felt she could have had much to do
sonicf2005:: yes she was 64 when she passed....yes...that true
Zandranna:: she felt quite sad about that at the time so she must have known she was going to pass
Zandranna:: she is saying something now about a wicker basket??
sonicf2005:: im all goose pimply, yes she knew something wasn't right
Zandranna:: the one she kept her veg in???
Zandranna:: what happened to the basket
Zandranna:: something happened to it
sonicf2005:: OMG the ladies at her work bought her a huge basket with dried flowers in
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: who had it after, she is saying something happened to it
sonicf2005:: I now have it my dad was upset to see flowers there while she was dying, and he gave them to me when she passed
Zandranna:: has someone still got the basket
Zandranna:: ah ok,
sonicf2005:: yes..i do and have arranged coloured lights inside it
Zandranna:: why would she meantion veg to do with the basket i wonder
Zandranna:: perhaps she means would be good for veg lol
Zandranna:: i dont know, lol
sonicf2005:: lol im not sure lol....she had a plastic basket.....for veg and my dad since passing left vegs to rot not a pleasant site i might add lol
Zandranna:: has someone chaffed their skin
Zandranna:: or has a sore
Zandranna:: she is saying somehting about chaffed skin
Zandranna:: can you take a clara
sonicf2005:: oh my....I do get chaffing with the weight I have on....
Zandranna:: ah right ok
Zandranna:: and a molly
sonicf2005:: mm thinking of clara, rings a bell , my aunty was called marleen and shes passed was my dads brothers wife
Zandranna:: ok this is difficult to explain but i am getting the feeling that towards the end she may have felt distant from you
sonicf2005:: they knocked about together
sonicf2005:: yes....she used to tell me to shut up and go home, and really used to hurt me, i think i was too manic with her
Zandranna:: ah ok thats it because she wishes she had been closer
Zandranna:: she regrets that
sonicf2005:: thanks sandy that means the world to me really, and is something i wanted a resolve woth
Zandranna:: feels quite sad about it
sonicf2005:: aww......i really yearned for her affection
Zandranna:: i feel she needed to resolve that as well
Zandranna:: do you still feel you have been pushing her away because of it. because she feels you have
Zandranna:: she wants to come closer
sonicf2005:: im quite emotional now thankyou so much....and thank her too, yes I do feel past hurts yes maybe
Zandranna:: needs to be let in
sonicf2005:: i understand that thankyou
Zandranna:: yes is feeling quite tearful as well. has brought tears to my eyes. and i have just now got a feeling of peace
Zandranna:: and you have made her happy for forgiving
Zandranna:: was important to her
sonicf2005:: i think of her and all the hurt and lack of attention did affect me, yes I feel like a weight has been lifted
sonicf2005:: oh thanks my legs are tingling now
Zandranna:: she can go now she says, lol
Zandranna:: she is very happy
Zandranna:: just felt her love for you
Zandranna:: blowing kisses she is
sonicf2005:: :o) me too how beautiful aww
fran 20:: thats good
sonicf2005:: i blw them back to her
Zandranna:: she is fading now
Zandranna:: love to you
sonicf2005:: Sandy thankyou so much....fantastic and thanks mum for calling here,
Zandranna:: gosh that took a while to get a decent link, but was strong when i finally did
Zandranna:: chat for a bit while I get a drink
fran 20:: well done
Zandranna:: thanks fran
fran 20:: I need a drink to lol
sonicf2005:: yes you was superb......and know it was genuine coz Ive never shared this with with anyone here before
riffy31:: me too but that was truly lovely sand well done
sonicf2005:: Great stuff sandy well done and snding you big HUGS
Zandranna:: thank you sonia
sonicf2005:: and big big thanks....has helped me alot
sonicf2005:: aww(((HUGS)))
Zandranna:: im pleased
sonicf2005:: your shining sand
Zandranna:: ok have just been given, ida and may
Zandranna:: would have been from a large family
fran 20:: might link with me Sand
Zandranna:: seems to be loads of people that would have gathered together
fran 20:: k
Zandranna:: all family
Zandranna:: i think
fran 20:: k
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Zandranna:: yes deffinately remembering a large family gathering
Zandranna:: although i think there were many of these
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: piano, singing, mother brown, knees up. lol
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Zandranna:: oh my whoever is showing me a real big party type thing
fran 20:: this may link to Andy more than me
Zandranna:: very loud and much laughter
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: some of them really enjoyed the drinking part of these parties. showing me a barrel of beer
Zandranna:: lol
fran 20:: sounds about right
Zandranna:: women knees up and men with beer glasses in their hands not far from the barrel
fran 20:: they used to have lots of boozy parties
Zandranna:: but told the parties never went on very late
Zandranna:: reckons they always packed up before closing time, lol
fran 20:: yea right
Zandranna:: rofl
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: i cant get a fix yet on who is with me, wont let me get passed the party lol
Zandranna:: hold on
Zandranna:: ok i am being told that somewhere in the family there is or was one woman that was an alcoholic
Zandranna:: if fact i am feeling that whoever this person is with me would have prefered this other woman not to have been at the gatherings
fran 20:: yes I thnk one of his Aunts
Zandranna:: does that make sense
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: i feel she would have got stroppy when she drank
fran 20:: so I have heard
Zandranna:: caused problems for those around her
fran 20:: I think so
Zandranna:: to tell the truth i think who ever is with me washed her hands of this woman in the end and avoided her. i think im with a woman
fran 20:: k
Zandranna:: cant tell much she isnt showing herself properly yet.
fran 20:: ok
Zandranna:: but i feel may have been a sister to this other woman
Zandranna:: same age group i feel
fran 20:: well they didnt see much of each other in later life
Zandranna:: if fact the lady with me feels that she felt different to most of the family, a bit more lady like
Zandranna:: because she is showing me now herself as if she was on the outskirts of the gatherings. as if slightly aloof from it all
riffy31:: sorry to be rude but i need to go ive sat too long and back hurts a bit love to all will catch up later xxx
fran 20:: any idea who the lady id thats talking to u
Zandranna:: ok riffy night night
fran 20:: night sonia
Zandranna:: no fran, but will try hold on
sonicf2005:: night night sue xoxox
riffy31:: xx
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sonicf2005:: xoxox
fran 20:: or Riffy even lol
sonicf2005:: LOL just seen that lol
Zandranna:: i feel a generation above us fran, and siter to the lady that drank
Zandranna:: sister
Zandranna:: im still getting ida and may
fran 20:: May was Andys Mum and they were all drinkers
Zandranna:: ok may sound silly but just got cream and caramel???
fran 20:: Ida was an Aunt to his mum
fran 20:: Well I love creme Caramel lol
Zandranna:: oh right lol
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: would someone getting beat up mean anything to you
Zandranna:: badly beaten
Zandranna:: or knocked about
fran 20:: yes
fran 20:: could do
Zandranna:: she is showing me a cart of some sort.
Zandranna:: as if there was something to do with a cart having an accident of sorts
fran 20:: im having to read this out to Andy it's not mine
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: or could be the back of an open lorry type thing she is showing me
Zandranna:: but it seems to be in a ditch
fran 20:: nope
Zandranna:: ok
fran 20:: he cant recall that
Zandranna:: she is deffinately showing me some thing leaning over slightly in a ditch.
Zandranna:: i first thought a cart and horse. but its deffinately a vehicle that would be carrying some sort of goods
fran 20:: he cant remember that and it's not for me either Sand
Zandranna:: and this has something to do with fighting.
Zandranna:: as if a fight kicked off because of this
fran 20:: no lost us there lol
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: hold on
Zandranna:: its as if whoever got beat up owned this vehicle or something
Zandranna:: she is linking the two you see
Zandranna:: but i dont know hwo
Zandranna:: how
fran 20:: nope we cant take that hun
Zandranna:: ok no worries
Zandranna:: has someone ear trouble, my ears feel uncomfortagle
fran 20:: but the Parties and names and large families are right
sonicf2005:: omg no idding my partner has had terrible ear trouble
fran 20:: mine have been playing up
sonicf2005:: hes had olive oil in his ear today
sonicf2005:: he went temporoary deaf lol
Zandranna:: oh thought i had left you for a min fran but perhaps im still with you
fran 20:: Ican hear lol
sonicf2005:: the wax was yukky hehehe how conicidental
sonicf2005:: hehehe
Zandranna:: this problem seems to be felt going into the throat area as well
fran 20:: tell him to have it back I dont want it
fran 20:: thats me then Sand
sonicf2005:: LOL will do hehe
Zandranna:: ok fran
Zandranna:: also maybe difficulty in swallowing sometimes as well
fran 20:: right ear right side of throat
fran 20:: yes
Zandranna:: are you also getting tireder quicker just lately as well
Zandranna:: run down sort of
fran 20:: no more than usual lol
Zandranna:: well getting the feeling you need more rest for some reason
fran 20:: been very busy so have been tired
Zandranna:: feet ache sometimes as well??
Zandranna:: as if need to get off the feet, put them up i seem to be being told
fran 20:: funny Sand Thats Andy as well as me
Zandranna:: oh right
fran 20:: He started the ear and throat thing and his feet give him trouble
Zandranna:: ah ok
fran 20:: mine seem ok
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: so prob still with his family then, lol
fran 20:: think so
Zandranna:: being told that you like a tipple??
fran 20:: not me sorrt
fran 20:: y
Zandranna:: andy then lol
fran 20:: oh yea
sonicf2005:: lol
fran 20:: well he is a scot
Zandranna:: i know you have done your sitting room but have you done something to the conservertory or does conservertory need doing or something
fran 20:: it'a all done looks nice
Zandranna:: changed it around made it look differnt???
Zandranna:: ah
fran 20:: yes to both
Zandranna:: ok
Zandranna:: has it made it look bigger, more room??
Zandranna:: more room to move around now
fran 20:: it's lighter so spose so
fran 20:: no more room lol
Zandranna:: gosh this person is nosy. lol
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: in the kitchen now. that still needs doing??
fran 20:: well all his lot are
sonicf2005:: lol
Zandranna:: rofl
fran 20:: yes I T DOES
fran 20:: but not yet
Zandranna:: ah thought so lol. because i got "next the kitchen" lol
sonicf2005:: cool
fran 20:: maybe lol
fran 20:: tell them to come and help
sonicf2005:: lol sorry got giggles
Zandranna:: i think this lady now is just being nosy, lol. just for fun. has nothing else to give
fran 20:: is ok Sonia lol
fran 20:: thanks Sand
sonicf2005:: lol yes just having fits of laughter hehehe, you ake me laugh
Zandranna:: probably was jsut giving a little extra for proof
sonicf2005:: that was great sany, well done wow
Zandranna:: thanks sonia
fran 20:: was prolly just nosy
Zandranna:: yep i agree lol
sonicf2005:: lol
fran 20:: if it was May lol
Zandranna:: ah
sonicf2005:: great messges though
fran 20:: very well done lol
Zandranna:: great spirit we thank you for helping us to link the two worlds together and ask that you keep us all safe until the next time
Zandranna:: amen
fran 20:: amen
sonicf2005:: Amen
